[FusionComm] 2 divisions or 2 projects?

[Sam Spilsbury]

AFAIK both communities decided that these goals were correct, so we merged
on the basis of them. Once Compiz-Fusion.org begins both compiz and compiz
fusion support will go there. We will migrate wiki article from both the
Beryl Wiki (But they will need to be updated) and the Compiz Wiki. Forums
will be set up and we will all go 'YAY!'

To Rico : I decided to yet again post the list of goals to see which ones
need updating, which ones we are achieving and and which ones we are not
achieving. Here they are

> Compiz-Core
> * The Compiz-Core division will include the code of the current core
> plus core plugins that provide essential functionality (a subset of
> the current compiz package).

Yep. I heard that we were going to take some of the non-essential (read :
water, screenshot , maybe cube etc) out of compiz... Is that true?

> * The package will be called "compiz".

Yep, maybe we will distribute compiz as compiz-core in the compiz-fusion
pacakage. Makes it easier for users ;-)

> * Compiz will be extremely stable with the relatively narrow focus of
> being a compositing window manager that will run on X Server and can
> be integrated into any DE.

I dont know about this... It's still pretty fancy imho ;-)

> * It will not include any functionality or code that replaces similar
> functionality in a DE unless it is required for compiz to operate
> correctly.

Well, it doesnt have a filemanager, desktop or panel, so I dont think its
replicating anything.

> * The Compiz-Core community will focus on core developers and plugin
> developers and will primarily use the compiz mailing list and the
> wiki.

Yes, we do that already.

> * The goal of Compiz-Core is for compiz to become a universal
> compositing and window manager layer on top of X Server, which can be
> integrated into all major DEs and included by default in all major
> distributions.

Default in Ubuntu, Almost in OpenSUSE and Fedora. Keep up the good work
packagers ;-)

>
> Compiz-Fusion
> * The Compiz-Extra division will include plugins and other programs
> that provide functionality which is not essential to the operation of
> the core (compiz-extra, plus some plugins from compiz,
See above post about removing stuff from compiz

> plus other
> programs).
> * We are currently calling this division and package "compiz-extra"
> but this may change as the community and project scope grows and
> evolves.

Compiz - Fusion, just to update that

> * Compiz-Extra will have a broad focus on plugins, decorators,
> libraries, and other programs and will include stable, developmental,
> and experimental code.

However, only stable code will be included in the distribution of
Compiz-Fusion, while other code will be availible from wiki / forum / git

> * It will include functionality and code that can be used universally,
> used with a specific DE, or can be run on compiz without a DE.

CCP gives us pretty good DE intergration, INI allows us to run without,
maybe we can have a basic panel live iceWM?

> * The Compiz-Extra community will focus on the developers creating and
> maintaining the compiz-extra programs and on end users. It will
> primarily use the wiki and the forum.

And obby, and the FusionComm, FusionDev and FusionWeb ML and Git

> * The goal of the Compiz-Extra division is to develop compiz related
> software and support the use of compiz on all desktops.

Most certainly ;-)

Rico : It's absolutely essential that you close Compiz.org after cf.o is set
up. It's important because users need to have one_place_to_go (And who wants
compiz by itself anyways ;-) ) This way, we can prevent multiple discussions
on all these forums, (Which gets really complicated, ie, I'm sick and tired
or referring everyone to compiz.org to get the widget or bs plugin. Just put
them in one place.) Maybe we should have a message saying that the projects
have merged into cf.o. Close the forums. After Beryl and Compiz-Extra are
EOL, we close the website.

On 7/10/07, Jeffrey Laramie <imnotpc at ubaight.com> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 10 July 2007 19:43, RYX wrote:
> > This plan assumes that we are two communities, which is total
> > nonsense ... This document needs a revision - that's all I am talking
> > about. It was a first draft, nothing more.
>
> I don't know what you are talking about Rico. It was labeled a draft only
> because we wanted to get input from the community before making it final,
> not
> because we were still debating it. In fact this was one of several
> announcements I held off publishing for weeks in an attempt to coordinate
> it
> with the site revisions and the release of 0.4 and 0.5. I clearly stated
> in
> my next post that if there were no objections from the community it would
> be
> adopted. There was no objection from the community and it was supposed to
> have been posted on the wiki.
>
> http://forum.compiz.org/viewtopic.php?t=677
>
> This represents the decision of the Compiz admins and the Compiz community
> and
> nobody but you has ever questioned it's legitimacy (although I don't think
> Mike agreed with the decision). It served as the basis of our discussions
> on
> re-uniting and is supported by David and every former beryl dev I've
> spoken
> with. If you think it needs to be revised, fine. I've asked you before to
> propose revisions and you never did. But please stop trying to re-write
> history and re-open decisions that have already been made.
>
> Jeff
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